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Tuesday, 5 April 2016

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Completed reading of "The White Tiger" by Aravind Adiga.
"I was looking for the keys, but the doors was always open"- The White Tiger.
# the best novel i've ever read.
# if you want to break the "MYTH OF SHINING INDIA" & "MERA BHARAT MAHAN" read The White Tiger.
# Corruption in politics and education, pollution, prostitutiion, hit & run, failure of governmental institution, Rich V/S poor conflict, Globalization and changing morality, two sides of India- Darkness and Light and many more things beautifully merged into a single plot in humorous and satirical, ironical way. # Must read novel!!!!!!

Completed reading of play "The Swamp Dwellers" by Wole Soyinka. - Very short but play with deeper layers of meaning.
Now begin to read novel " A Grain of Wheat" by Ngugi wa Thiongo.
"Kihika" signifies an inhuman heroism which is necessary for freedom and justice. He is the "Grain of wheat" of the title, WHO MUST DIE FOR NEW LIFE TO BEGIN.

    ‪#‎Radical‬ thinkers always supressed by authority. Shocked to read that Ngugi wa Thiongo was detained and after release Govt. dismissed from his academic job & harrased him out of the country in 1982. The reason was that his writing and 'peasant' workshop were bringing tremendous social changes, and this panicked the Govt.( Really people are by and large 'Lucky'- character of ‪#‎Waiting‬ for Godot- who will kick you if you try to make him free)
    -Interesting parallel we find happening around us also......
    ‪#‎Untill‬ we wont protect our intellectual people, humanity will never progress.‪#‎POWER‬ is not always right. As a society we've to grow and protect our intellectual treasure.
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    We dont know what "We Dont know".‪#‎The‬ Da Vinci Code( Dan Brown)-Sophie Neuve and Prof.Langdon dont knew who they are. What Sophie wasnt believing her entire life she herself was that. What Langdon was writing it was with him. SOPHIE was the secret, and Langdon was the Protector, Knight, Secret keeper.But #"WE DONT KNOW WHAT WE DONT KNOW". Because "knowledge dawns", we will come to know only when time comes.
Nimesh Dave
For writing a movie review on " The Midnight's Children' and 'The Reluctant Faundamentalist'- Reading various theories about how to review a film. Now i come to know that u can not give comment on movie randomly, but u have to do it systematically, methodologically. if u like the movie, then why? and not , then why not?. script, plot, graphics, (mechanics of movie), cinematograpgy, sound, music, narrative technique, content of movie, time duration , level of enjoyment ...... and many more..
this all things one should keep in mind while reviewing films, which even i m surprised to know while reading.


Reading Ngugi Wa Thiongo's '-Decolonising the Minds'.
# Indians and Africans both were colonised by White people. but it is surprising that African people have tried more to free themselves from the clutches of White mentality, where as we are still blindlly obsessed with idea that West is superior.
i think we also have to think about the Decolonizing of our minds......


i m Reading "Manavi ni Bhavai"- a Gujarati novel by Pannalal patel. really mindblowing novel.

Friedrich Nietzsche declared the concept of “ Death of God”, which was taken in narrow sense by time. He gave an idea of : Übermensch - ‘superman’. Means a person with extraordinary abilities. For example‪#‎Krishna‬, or Jesus.Christ who were such supermen, who paved their own path. And which was followed by people in the time to come. So the solution of the question will be that one has to develop his own sense of morality.‪#‎God‬ will not come from heaven to guide you. He thinks in more advance way then T. S. Eliot. Where as Eliot goes into past for the solution of the contemporary problems.(Nimesh Dave)
Read similar interesting comments by Sem 3 students of Department of English - Maharaja Krishnakumarsinhji Bhavnagar University in a blog task . . . in the comment section under this blog.























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modernist literature background

 Characteristics of Modernism / literature:-
-high degree of complexity in structure
-anxiety and interrogation
-reworks tradition
-works are intensly self reflexive, exploring the process of their own composition.
-are often Fragmented and non linear, breaking up time frames and plots.
-some critics identify a sense of apocalypse & disaster in modernism.
-city based.
-it is also located in the context of Empire and world wars, of advanced military technology.
-a great deal of experimentation with language and form.
-an interest in subjectivity and the working of the human consciousness.
-often rejects realism & the idea that art has to capture reality.
-Modernist fiction defamiliarizes or makes strange what is common. MAKE IT NEW- is the Modernist slogan.
-highly elitist because it was complex and used allusions and classical references that called for great erudition- which was available only to certain classes of people.
★FRUSTRATION
★FRAGMENTATION
★ISOLATION
★BROKENNESS
★NOTHINGNESS Characteristics of modernist Literature.
Victorians V/S Modernist
☆ in the study of literature few things are most interesting than to consider periodic changes of outlook which sway the human mind and spirit, and to observe those fluctuations of value which cause the truths and certainties of one generation to appears as superstitions and baseless conventions in the eyes of the generation following.
★ young men & women during 20th century looked back upon the ( Victorian Age) as dully hypocritical.
★-Victorian ideals appeared mean and superficial and stupid.
☆from 1901 to 1925 English Literature was directed by mental attitudes, moral ideals and spiritual values at almost the opposite extreme to the attitudes, ideals & values governing Victorian literature.
★ the old certainties were certainties no longer.
★everything was held to be open to question.
☆question
☆examine
☆test→ watchword of Modern Age.
★ standard of artistic craftmanship and of aesthetic appreciation began to change fundamentally.
★wha the Victorians had considered beautiful their children and grand children thought hideous.
→ intellectuals and artists at the turn of the 20th century believed the previous generation's way of doing things was a cultural dead end. they could forsee worlds events were spiraling into unknown territory. the stability and quietude of Victorian civilization were rapidly becoming a thing of the past.
★ the post victorian generation disliked the furnishings of victorian households, they were even more contemptuous of the furnishings of the victorian minds.
in the Victorian age there was a widespread and willing submission to the rule of expert.
the voice of authority was accepted in religion, in politics, in literature, in family life.
★VICTORIANS:-
-hypocritical, artificial
-emotional
-literature-simple
-traditional narrative technique (Aristotle)
-Hardy, Dickens etc never broke the tradition of writing-way of telling.
religion
-without questioning willing submission to the rule/voice of expert/authority/religion.
-'MASK'
-old morality
-Believer
-living in a house built on unshakable foundations and established in perpetuity.
-sense of stability
-home, constitution, Empire, religion are the best form.
-permanence of institutions.
-our empire will never shaken.
Modernist:-
-realistic
-Rational
-all broken (Fragmented)
-stream of consciousness ( experimentation)
-no respect for tradition
-science
-'Origin of species', 'Interpretation of Dreams'
-Faith in Freud & Darwin- book ( The Descent of Man)than the voice of God in book of Genesis.
-New Morality
-Skeptical- (somebody denying knowledge is possible)
-doubtful- question everything
-Agnostic-(somebody denying God's existence is provable).
-H.G.WELLS- MEANWHILE
-UNIVERSAL MUTABILITY
-NOTHING IS PERMANENT
-Campside-modernist idea
-body is home- we've to leave it.
you victorians were wanted to eat fruits of garden of entire world- their own generation.
# the great Victorian and Modernist conflict
‪#‎Morally‬ and mentally frustrated great Britain.
-☆ G.B.SHAW→Question, examine old superstitions.
★ 'INTERROGATIVE HABIT OF MIND'
Major Barbara-quote-you will upgrade things but not thinking &morality.
G.B.SHAW》
H.G.WELLS》PIONEER
conflict with forefathers.
MASSMAN became important in 20th century.
mass production & threat/death of craftmanship.
Reader Response Theory emerged↓
Author is dead
craftmanship is not important.
reader: i will generate my meaning.
JAMES JOYCE-ULYSSES
T.S.ELIOT-THE WASTE LAND
V.WOOLF-JACOB'S ROOM-------Esoteric ( abstruce) Difficult to understand.
★requires high intellect to understand
★deep-philosophical
★ feeling of uneasiness, restlessness

The waste land by T S Eliot

This was my facebook post i had posted in sem 3
★ Characters of THE WASTE LAND BY T. S. ELIOT:-
The Cumaean Sibyl :- appears in the epigram at the head of the poem. A guest at a Roman feast in the satirical novel by Petronius, c. 27–66 a.d., The Satyricon, relates her story. Granted eternal life by Apollo, she neglected to ask also for eternal youth and lived a life in death, continually withering but never dying.
★ Ezra Pound :- American poet, author of The Cantos, edited The Waste Land, cutting it in half and giving it the shape and texture that define it as the ground-breaking work it is. In recognition of his craftsmanship, Eliot dedicated the poet to him, using the Italian inscription translated as “the better craftsman.”
☆ the poet narrator :- recites the poem, assuming many voices. In his own voice, he seems to be an intellectual and ineffectual man, tormented by a sense that history has run down, civilization has decayed and that culture, while comforting to his lonely soul, describes the failures and torments of mankind but cannot bring salvation.
☆★ Marie :- is the poet’s first interlocutor. She tells him over coffee of her past in Austria and of her cousin, who was the Archduke Rudolph, the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne and how she used to go sledding in the mountains.
★ Isolde, the heroine of Richard Wagner’s opera Tristan und Isolde, is referred to in the quotation from the opera beginning at line 31. She falls desperately in love with Tristan, who had been sent by his king, Mark, to bring her back to him as a bride. Tristan falls in love with her, too, after they drink a love potion.
★ Madame Sosostris is a clairvoyant and tarot card reader, a fortune teller. As she turns over the cards in her deck, she introduces several of the characters present in the poem through allusion:
★★ the drowned Phoenician sailor :- refers to Phlebas the Phoenician, whose death is the subject of the “Death by Water” section of the poem.
★ the man with three staves, Eliot states in his notes, he associates with the Fisher King, the impotent ruler of the waste land, and the prevailing spirit of The Waste Land.
★★ the one-eyed merchant is a figure that may be associated with Mr. Eugenides, the Smyrna merchant in the third section of the poem who propositions the narrator.
★★the Hanged Man, Eliot says, he associates with the dying god and with the hooded figure in the last section of the poem, that is with Jesus as he was after his resurrection, when he appeared to some of his disciples on their way to Emmaus.
★★Stetson is a figure the narrator encounters on London Bridge, representing survivors of war.
★★“She” is the way Eliot identifies the wealthy and nervous woman in the richly appointed salon that begins the second section of the poem.
★★Cleopatra, the hot-tempered and volatile Egyptian queen, as she is portrayed in Shakespeare’s Antony and Cleopatra, is present by allusion as a precursor spirit to the woman Eliot refers to as “she,” because her chair is compared to Cleopatra’s barge on the Nile.
★★tereus and Philomela are pictured over the mantelpiece. In the Metamorphoses, Ovid tells the story of how Tereus raped his wife’s sister, Philomela, and how he was changed into a hawk and she into a swallow.
Gossip in a dive is an unidentified cockney women who tells the story of:
★★lil, a woman who has had five children and an abortion and is old beyond her years. She would like to break off sexual relations with her husband.
★★lil’s husband is returning from the army and, according to the Gossip, will be looking for “a good time” with another woman if his wife is unavailable.
barman calls out that the bar is closing as the Gossip tells her tale.
★★Ophelia is the young woman used by her father and spurned by Hamlet in Shakespeare’s play, who dies by drowning. In the poem, the goodnights the bar patrons exchange segue into her last words in Hamlet. Mrs. Porter is the keeper of a brothel in a bawdy song from which Eliot quotes.
Her daughter is one of her prostitutes.
★★Sweeney, one of her clients, is a recurring figure in Eliot’s poetry and represents a rather degenerate example of the human species, governed by lust and greed.
★Mr. eugenides is the merchant referred to by Madame Sosostris. He propositions the narrator.
★★★
☆☆Tiresias, to whom the poet compares himself and who, Eliot explains is his notes, represents the point at which all the characters in the poem converge, is a character from Ovid’s Metamorphoses who existed serially as both male and female. In his final embodiment as a male he was blind but had the power of prophecy.
★the typist lives in a small bed-sitter.
★the Clerk is a vain young man who visits her.
★★the rhine Maidens, the spirits of the Rhine River from Richard Wagner’s Ring Cycle, are parodied as thames Maidens, the spirit of the Thames.
★ Queen elizabeth i and her favorite, leicester, are imagined on the Thames, contrasting the opulence of the Renaissance with the industrial waste of Eliot’s time.
★★Saint Augustine, an early Church Father, is alluded to in the line referring to Carthage. Augustine wrote The Confessions in which he tells of his conversion from a dissolute youth to a life of religious asceticism.
★★ the buddha’s sermon in which he spoke of everything being on fire is referred to in the repetition of the word “burning.”
☆☆ roman soldiers are suggested by the allusion to “torchlight red on sweaty faces” in the final section of the poem, which presents the capture, crucifixion, and resurrection of Jesus in a series of images and allusions.
★★ the thunder is personified and made to speak the words of Prajapati, the Hindu God of creation.

the Prince of Aquitaine is a character in a poem by Gerard de Nerval, an early nineteenth-century French poet whom Eliot quotes. The prince, like the poet/narrator, laments the fallen glory of his condition by using the image of a fallen tower.
★★★★★
Hieronymo is a character in the Elizabethan revenge tragedy,
the Spanish tragedy, by Thomas Kyd. Eliot’s allusion suggests the vicissitudes of his own emotional condition when caught between the despair engendered in him by the waste land around him and within himself, and the as-yet-unrealizable possibility of salvation.

four point perspective on the rewards of reading literature

Respected sir,
 I have read whole article as well as also seen the video. The points discussed here are seems appropriate, because under the four main advantages of reading literature writer has cover most of possible advantages of reading literature. So it may possible that what I am writing as a my experience of advantage of reading literature that (may) already discussed in this article.
Sir, earlier once in our class we had discussed about the attack of terrorist on World Trade Centre, America. At that time you have told that all the terrorist were highly intellectual people, not common men. Every one cannot do that multitasking at same time which they were able to do.  So the question arise that why this sort of highly intellectual people agree to do such kind of disaster?. Then the research was done and it was proved that their brainwash was done.  And when their biographies were studied at that time it comes to know that they had not study literature in their life. So they have no sensitivity, feelings, humanity, love, affection which literature gives.  In research it was also proved that in comparison of students of literature, students of engineering, medical(doctors) are less sensitive. Why??? This is the result of literature. Literature makes us better human being. Rather than being self centered literature makes us world oriented. It gives vision to understand the outside world in better way. Reading of literature has many advantages like it gives aesthetic delight, information and knowledge. We cannot go in past(100 years back) but it through reading we can know about that. It gives better understanding of human nature
Thank you.   

Love jehad: Gunvant Shah

Respected sir,
Thank you for sharing article about Love Jehad and with reference of Gunvant Shah’s interesting article.
First the words love and jehad are seems controversial. Because love is something precious and beautiful gifnt to us. But then even religion and politics have spoiled this. People are playing with others emotions for the sake of religion and politics.
                Hindu girl marry a muslim boy that is generally called love jehad. But it is not so. In the news    paper I read that Muslim boys are marrying Hindu girl, then they force her to accept the islam. And if they(girl) deny to do so then they abandon the girls. This is the love jehad. Marrying a muslim is not a problem but if they are using this marriage for the spreading of the islam religion then it is wrong. Why pious love is used for this sort of bad things?
Women are not free in our society.  They are suppressed under power of patriarchy. We are living in the era of 21st century but still our thinking process, our behavior with women is very cruel like of hundred years back. Why it is so? We are calling ourselves civilized, but is it so?.
We should learn from the western country like England and America that how they are behaving with the women. There male and female considers as equal. So we should go into that directions rather than love jehad and all this things.

East versus West



Respected sir, thank you very much for bringing into discussion very interesting issue about the east and west.

it is perhaps ridiculous to generalise that east is spiritual and west is materialistic. because  now a days we are also running behind the material thing, wealth. whereas people of west are also starts YOGA, for mental peace. this shows that there is worth in our values. at the same time we should not denied  the useful ness of material thing. whether we are living in east or west it is the fact that we are living in big houses, uses all the luxurious of life, all have ambition to reach higher than they are, all want betterment in their life, . so this is the common human desire. so we cannot  set limit that only west is materialistic and we are spiritualist. west is more advance in science and technology  than us, they have invented many things  which are even used by us.


if we look from the traditional perspectives then we can say that east is traditional, religious and devotional. we are proud on what we were, but the tragedy is that people are now calling that Indians are highly hypocritic people. we are living in day-dreams, illusions than in reality because even we are not following our tradition sincerely. rather we go on telling other that our culture is this and that but if we try to implement this things in our life then no one does so .for example we are proud that our forefathers were wearing dhoti, we can take pride on that but how many of us will ready  to accept to wear dhoti from now onwards than pant shirt??.how many of us will prefer  to live life of hermit if we are truly spiritualist??how many of us wants to live in hut than in big bungalows??? the results will be zero. then the question arises that if we are religious and spiritualist then why we are running behind all this material thing??.this shows our vanity , hypocrisy.


and it at one extent also right that west is adventurist, scientific and materialistic one. if we read the history then we can find that most of the adventurous work were done by them. they  have done sea voyages and found new lands. I have never heard that any Indians have explored the sea and found the new lands.  even if we check the list of new inventions then we will see them at the top. our contribution is very less.


they are far ahead than us in all the ways .they put  human being at the centre than god. they have freedom of thinking, of religion, of expression etc .but  still we are not able to free ourself from that. we are spiritual, religious people then even in our country there is corruption, poverty, unequality, and many vices in our. how paradox!!!!!!!!!
my point is that no one is perfect. all have something good and bad. and we should not generalise any thing because even two brothers are not equal, all fingers of our hand is not of same length. similarly whole east and west cannot be totally same. even west is also religious, spiritual and we are also materialistic.
it is a time of globalization .all are merging into each other and world is becoming now a global village.so east and west are same in most ways. 

Prime Minister's speech

Respected sir,
Thank you very much for sharing the speech of President and P.M. of India. Truly their speech is really appealing to us. In his speech I like the most is their appeal to the teacher about their proficiency in using the ICT.  If teachers were not knowing how to use all this things properly then how can they will teach to the students. Students are the future of India, and the future of any country will depend on science and technology. So if student will learn from childhood then even they will become perfect for the upcoming time and for that teacher’s proficiency is necessary.
Second important thing is that children are innocent. They don’t know anything. They imitate teachers, so teacher’s behavior should be ideal for them. Everyday student spent 5 hours in the school, so teacher should be well behaved.
    Now a days all wants to become engineer and doctor but there are very  who   few who wants to become teacher. So one must think about being an efficient teacher. And also think that we can export good teachers. Not only scientists and doctors but teachers also.
A teacher must be good student. Means he should continue his learning throughout his life. New knowledge comes everyday. So age doesn’t matter one should continue new learning.
Thus this and many other thought in this speech I like most. Really one should try to implement this in life. It was best for the occasion –The Teacher’s Day. Dr. Radhakrishnan was great teacher and one must remember and learn values from him.
Thank you 

importance of English (UPSC controversy)

Respected sir,
Thank you very much for this wonderful article and debate.
§  About  UPSC
First of all we should  think that why students of the Northern States  are against the English language.
v Students of northern states protesting it because they think that , student of English medium get more advantage in the exam.
v Hindi is official (National)language of india. so they think that we should prefer hindi rather than English and they also believe that without the use of English they can do well.

Now lets discuss this point from another perspectives

Is it possible now a days to live without knowledge of English language at the IPS and IAS level?

Importance of English language.
·       English as a library language.
·       English as a link language.
·       English as an international language.
·       Inter state language.
·       English is a WINDOW to see the WORLD.
·       Useful medium for widened our senses and knowledge.
·       English is a spectacle for observe the bounderyless,limitless world,which is out side of india.                         (and more……)

English language is really a gift to us. we should not look at this with the mark of slavery. and we also should not forget that it is the language which help us in getting freedom. our freedom fighter get inspiration of freedom from the English books and the contemporary movement which was happening at that time in the world.
*    Few days ago I met my B.A. friends. They are also in our university, in Psychology and Sociology Department.  They told me that right now they are facing big problem. The reason is that at the P.G. and further  level most of their reference books are in English. And they have not sufficient knowledge of English. this shows that how important English language is in whatever field you are.
*    Last Friday a merchant was came to my village  to sell garments. He was from west Bengal. And he was able to talk only in Bengali and English.  Definitely we wont understand Bengali, so only bridge was of English language.(but the tragedy was that except 2-3 people no one was able to understand in English even. So great misunderstanding and confusion was created.)
This are the very common incidents, but it shows that how English became necessary and important at very common stage of our life.

My point is that if common people cannot live without use of English then how can a person of IPS and IAS  level could be?
And why those people who are protesting  English they are not able to realize its usefulness?
For this incident I would like to quote a SLOCK ofBHARTUHARI from his great work ’NITISHATAKAM’’-agyani (fool) ne saralta thi samajavi shakay, vishesh gyani(scholar) ne vadhare saralta thi samjavi shakay, pan ocha gyan (knowledge) thi potane shreshtha (true,best) mannaar ne brahma pan rijvi,prasanna kari shakta nathi.(samjavi shakta nathi)
In this UPSC case thing is something like this…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......

Ancient and Modern writer 2 debate

Ancient and Modern


It is foolish idea to compare two distinct things and derive conclusion from them, that who is better. Comparison is okay but what is the need to prove one as superior and other inferior?
the same debate is also there in the Battle of the Books by Jonathan Swift, in which books discuss who is better Ancient or Modern?.
In that books Ancients are compared with Honeybees  and moderns are compared with Spiders. Ancients gathers so many material (honey) from here and there, and Moderns use them like Spiders. Eating the fruits of work done by Ancients without hard work. Moderns are lucky that they have raw material, model how to write. Ancients had done lot of works and moderns are just  copying or imitating them.

From Modern point of view , we can criticize Ancient that- As said by T.S.ELIOT in Tradition and Individual Talent, while discussing Historical sense-  that influence of past ruins the new talent. under the influence of great writer it  becomes difficult for Individual to write.
As well as we can defend modern that, they are not  copying Ancients but adding much more in that. New plot structures, experimentive narrative technique, Psychological portrayal of character, fusion of various arts into literature etc. are gift of Modern writers.
so to think of mutual existence of both is a better idea. it is our conditioning of mind since childhood to compare and contrast two things, whether possible or not.
Generalizing anything is major problem. there are plenty of Ancient writers. how can one say that they were good or bad- how can you generalize?? some of them may be artist with great literary abilities , some may not!!!!!! so judge individual by reading them, whether Ancient or Modern. similarly all Ancients are Great Classics and all Modern are rubbish, childish , it is not so.
so even John Dryden, in his essay Of Dramatic Poesy- through characters of Crites, Lesidius, Eugenius, Neander does not give any  conclusion, but gives voice to both.
both are interdependent, like two sides of a coin.



Discussion of Ancient and Modern should not be for who is better, it should be more filename tally about how "history" itself functioned and should be read, thus it should be about the relationship between past and present, humanity and nature, and human understanding and knowledge.↓↓


This is also fact that contemporary society fails to understand/ judge writers. they became great classic only after their death. for exampleThomas Hardy- his novels were banned when he was alive. priests have burn his book ( Tess of D'Urbervilles-a pure woman) and drank ashes in coffee. and now he is classic writer.
Even during Elizabethan era Shakespeare was also writing for masses. he was popular not classic. Ben Jonson was holding important place  at that time, writing for Queen. ( Royal family). but today Ben Jonson is almost lost. so time will judge artist. contemporary audience may be wrong.

Even Chetan Bhagat is popular modern writer. but being popular, best seller don’t make him good writer. upcoming time will judge him. Today's Modern are Ancients of tomorrow.
So we have to think about the mutual coexistence of both.

Reading Myth

Respected sir,
Myth plays an essential part in any culture therefore, it is century old debates that weather the myths are true stories or not. Like any other issue we also find here people believing in both the ways.
Whatever Aristotle and Plato had said about mythology that was according to their time and culture. But if we analyze the   question that whether myths are only imaginary story or has any reality from the Indian point of view then mostly we find that all this stories are true. For example  our great epics  RAMAYAN    and   MAHABHARATA ,because still  after this many years we have available  so many places  which are connected  with  lord  RAMA   and    Krishna. for  example  ‘RAMSETU” .and if this stories  are imaginary  than  it  shouldn't   have any  connection in real  life  but  it  is  not  so. Those  places  which  are  described  in  this  epics  are  still  existing  in  the  21st  century  like   DWARIKA   in  Gujarat,  the battle field of  KURUKSHETRA   in  Haryana, a  place  (village)   where  sri  Krishna  was married with Rukmini    is still existing   in MAHUVA   TALUKA  ,which  was  shown  on  TV 9   news  few  months   ago. a place  where sri   Krishna  breath  his  last (PRABHASPATAN) is also existing  in  Gujarat. This and many other like this shows that it is not only imaginary story.

But now  the  question  arise  that  if all this  stories  are  fact/truth  does  it becomes  history?

We shouldn't  forgot  that this great epics were remain  greatest source for the most  of  the  authors and  they  have chosen their  material  from this and made  necessary  changes according to  their  needs.  And we also not  forgot  that RAM  is  one  and  the  RAMAYAN   is  also  one  but  in every state of India  they have  their  own  RAMAYAN.
This suggests that truth is truth but it is writer’s imagination, creativity which creates god’s image in our mind.and perhaps this is the reason that PLATO was not agree in beleiving that myths are true story.at some extent he is right.